Comments on: The M Files (20): Voigtländer Nokton VM 21/1.4 and 75/1.5 – a pair of Summilux lenses for the thrifty? https://www.macfilos.com/2023/08/04/the-m-files-20-voigtlander-nokton-vm-21-1-4-and-75-1-5-a-pair-of-summilux-lenses-for-the-thrifty/ Leica cameras, photography and discussion Mon, 21 Aug 2023 09:12:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Erwin Hartenberg https://www.macfilos.com/2023/08/04/the-m-files-20-voigtlander-nokton-vm-21-1-4-and-75-1-5-a-pair-of-summilux-lenses-for-the-thrifty/#comment-67074 Mon, 21 Aug 2023 09:12:00 +0000 https://www.macfilos.com/?p=62309#comment-67074 Great review. I still own the Voigtlander 75mm although I use it less and less but that is more because I am falling out of love with 75mm as a focal length, nothing to do with the lens. It can be a touch soft but very usable. I’ve had and sold the 21mm. It is a stunning performer but just too big in the end for the very few occasions I really need F1.4 at that focal length…. thanks for the write-up!

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By: Mike Evans https://www.macfilos.com/2023/08/04/the-m-files-20-voigtlander-nokton-vm-21-1-4-and-75-1-5-a-pair-of-summilux-lenses-for-the-thrifty/#comment-66446 Tue, 08 Aug 2023 10:43:36 +0000 https://www.macfilos.com/?p=62309#comment-66446 In reply to SlowDriver.

Perhaps Brian agrees with Groucho Marx: I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member.

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By: SlowDriver https://www.macfilos.com/2023/08/04/the-m-files-20-voigtlander-nokton-vm-21-1-4-and-75-1-5-a-pair-of-summilux-lenses-for-the-thrifty/#comment-66424 Tue, 08 Aug 2023 01:45:39 +0000 https://www.macfilos.com/?p=62309#comment-66424 In reply to Brian Nicol.

Hi Brian, sorry to break this to you but you are probably never going to be accepted in the Leica Society now… 🙁

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By: Brian Nicol https://www.macfilos.com/2023/08/04/the-m-files-20-voigtlander-nokton-vm-21-1-4-and-75-1-5-a-pair-of-summilux-lenses-for-the-thrifty/#comment-66418 Tue, 08 Aug 2023 00:08:59 +0000 https://www.macfilos.com/?p=62309#comment-66418 In reply to Jörg-Peter.

I have the Spectacular Voigtlander 35/2 apo. I must say that the Voigtlander 35/2 apo and 50/2 apo and 5/1.0 are spectacular lenses. I sold my 50/2 apo because it was redundant to the 50/1. These lenses are second to none. However, the Leica 35/2 apo is smaller than the Voigtlander equivalent with virtual identical performance in general. Leica is the master of magnificent smaller glass if that is important to you but at a breathtaking price premium. It is a challenge to make exquisite tiny lenses but the price dramatically increases. Also Leica lenses are 6 bit coded if that is critical. For me, 6 bit coding is not critical. Manual 6 bit coding is possible but I only succeeded once on an old Leica 75/1.4. I eventually sold that lens because I did not like its swirly bokeh.

My m kit now only has one Leica lens: the breathtaking gorgeous 90/1.5. It is so much smaller than my bokeh master Sigma 105/1.4 but it does have autofocus. I used to own m Leica 21/3.4, Leica 24/3.8, Leica 18/3.8, leica 35/1.4, Leica 50/1.4, Leica 90/2 APO, Leica 135 APO. I think Voigtlander is chipping on Leicas once secure glass sales. There was a time when Leica glass was a no brainer if you could afford it. I believe the Voigtlander has ended that with their relatively recent releases. I am picky about my glass rendering and have mostly switched to Voigtlander. I have done this because of rendering; not cost.

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By: Jörg-Peter https://www.macfilos.com/2023/08/04/the-m-files-20-voigtlander-nokton-vm-21-1-4-and-75-1-5-a-pair-of-summilux-lenses-for-the-thrifty/#comment-66397 Mon, 07 Aug 2023 19:02:12 +0000 https://www.macfilos.com/?p=62309#comment-66397 In reply to Keith James.

Dear Keith, glad to read that the article was useful for you. The 75/1.5 seems to be a bit controversial indeed. I would opt for the Summicron or Summarit, but other users are pretty convinced of the Nokton. Dirk Säger commented on Messsucherwelt that he owned an sold the Nokton because he wanted more sharpness. Others swear by it. Maybe you find someone in California who could give it to you as a loan? JP

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By: Mike Evans https://www.macfilos.com/2023/08/04/the-m-files-20-voigtlander-nokton-vm-21-1-4-and-75-1-5-a-pair-of-summilux-lenses-for-the-thrifty/#comment-66389 Mon, 07 Aug 2023 16:51:36 +0000 https://www.macfilos.com/?p=62309#comment-66389 In reply to Keith James.

Keith, the 75mm Apo-Summicron is also an excellent lens that is worth considering.

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By: Keith James https://www.macfilos.com/2023/08/04/the-m-files-20-voigtlander-nokton-vm-21-1-4-and-75-1-5-a-pair-of-summilux-lenses-for-the-thrifty/#comment-66388 Mon, 07 Aug 2023 16:34:20 +0000 https://www.macfilos.com/?p=62309#comment-66388 Hi Joerg-Peter, thanks so much for this excellent review. I had been looking at the 75/1.5 lens as a potential future purchase, especially as it is available in silver, but your review has given me pause. If I bought it would definitely want to use it for architectural and landscape photography, and so I am now thinking I should reconsider! Sounds as if a used 75mm summarit would be a better bet. All the best, Keith

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By: Jörg-Peter https://www.macfilos.com/2023/08/04/the-m-files-20-voigtlander-nokton-vm-21-1-4-and-75-1-5-a-pair-of-summilux-lenses-for-the-thrifty/#comment-66320 Sun, 06 Aug 2023 17:23:58 +0000 https://www.macfilos.com/?p=62309#comment-66320 In reply to Röd White.

Dear Röd, a wonderful setup. As I replied above, the 50/1.0 is in the works right now. Seems to be an outstanding lens from what I have seen so far. The Heliar 40 is another wonderful lens for sure, I have already covered it The M Files. The 35/1.4 is another kettle of fish. It is really special with it swirly bokeh wide open. If you like it, it is fine. JP

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By: Jörg-Peter https://www.macfilos.com/2023/08/04/the-m-files-20-voigtlander-nokton-vm-21-1-4-and-75-1-5-a-pair-of-summilux-lenses-for-the-thrifty/#comment-66319 Sun, 06 Aug 2023 17:16:54 +0000 https://www.macfilos.com/?p=62309#comment-66319 In reply to YutakaKunu.

Thanks, YutakaKunu, for pointing out the filter issue. This is a further annoyance with this otherwise wonderful lens. Voigtländer should design a new version of the lens hood with a viable front cap solution. Can’t be all that difficult. As for UV filters, I am a bit reluctant generally. They certainly do offer some mechanical protection but then again it is a glass-air-surface that no design is calculating in. I personally resorted to the following solution: UV filter for the lenses I am taking to critical places (dirty, sandy, seawater spray) and no filter for the more relaxed work. But everyone’s mileage may very. JP

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By: Jörg-Peter https://www.macfilos.com/2023/08/04/the-m-files-20-voigtlander-nokton-vm-21-1-4-and-75-1-5-a-pair-of-summilux-lenses-for-the-thrifty/#comment-66317 Sun, 06 Aug 2023 17:09:15 +0000 https://www.macfilos.com/?p=62309#comment-66317 In reply to Brian Nicol.

Congrats, Brian, I think you will not be be sorry for your purchase. 21 and 50 are a wonderful kit. JP

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