Comments on: Leica CL+18-56 Vario-Elmar: Is this the new X-Vario? https://www.macfilos.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/ Leica cameras, photography and discussion Thu, 01 Oct 2020 08:31:34 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Don Morley https://www.macfilos.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/#comment-31970 Thu, 01 Oct 2020 08:31:34 +0000 http://worcesterwordpress.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/#comment-31970 In reply to Rock.

I love mine despite having a CL, SL,TL2 etc, so my advice would be to get one if you can. Am sure you would not regret it. Don

]]> By: Mike Evans https://www.macfilos.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/#comment-31963 Wed, 30 Sep 2020 19:07:37 +0000 http://worcesterwordpress.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/#comment-31963 In reply to Rock.

So do many, I know. The only snag is that if the Q Vario is going to be a reasonable size, we wouldn’t have a very fast lens. It would be f/3.5-5.6 at best, I imagine. In that case we would have a full-frame X Vario rather than a Q Vario. I believe Leica has considered such a camera and, indeed, also a Q50, but for a variety of reasons nothing materialised. I have the Q2 and am reasonably happy with the cropping ability, although you are still stuck with the disadvantages of a 28mm focal length.

]]> By: Rock https://www.macfilos.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/#comment-31961 Wed, 30 Sep 2020 18:24:20 +0000 http://worcesterwordpress.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/#comment-31961 I want a Q Vario

]]> By: Mike Evans https://www.macfilos.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/#comment-31722 Tue, 22 Sep 2020 17:45:22 +0000 http://worcesterwordpress.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/#comment-31722 In reply to Tony Cole.

Probably the reason is that I didn’t mention it because I have never tried it. It is the only lens in the TL lineup that I haven’t owned. But I’ve heard very good reports and I now do wish that I’d tried it out.

]]> By: Tony Cole https://www.macfilos.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/#comment-31718 Tue, 22 Sep 2020 14:41:50 +0000 http://worcesterwordpress.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/#comment-31718 Interesting reading all of this…. Having kept my trusty XV* even after buying the CL, but choosing prime TL lenses, plus the occasional use of an M lens (when I find the focus enhancing magnifier of the CL an excellent aid), I am surprised that no-one in this thread has mentioned the superlative APO-Macro-Elmarit 60mm f2.8 TL as an option (and the R 60mm Macro-Elmarit was always my favourite lens in that camera format). Using just the 23mm and 60mm TL lenses on the CL and reserving the XV for when I want the convenience of a short zoom does the job for me when in non-rangefinder mode. Tony

* the XV stays in the boot of my car just in case I get “caught short”!!

]]> By: Mike Evans https://www.macfilos.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/#comment-27599 Tue, 16 Jun 2020 16:47:59 +0000 http://worcesterwordpress.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/#comment-27599 In reply to Steve Nimmo.

I tend to agree with Nick on this. The 18mm is useful as a means of shrinking the CL almost to pocket size – which it definitely isn’t when the 18-56mm is mounted. But, on balance, it is one of those lenses that is nice to have but not essential. There is a good argument for saying that the 18-56 and 55-135 are the only two lenses you need for the CL/TL. Both are excellent zooms.

]]> By: Steve Nimmo https://www.macfilos.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/#comment-27594 Tue, 16 Jun 2020 12:37:04 +0000 http://worcesterwordpress.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/#comment-27594 In reply to Mike Evans.

Nick Rains was asked that very question on a recent Leica Akademie Australia Zoom session. His response was that the 18mm is a fine lens but he never really uses it because the 18mm end of the 18-56 lens is so good he doesn’t feel the need.

]]> By: Mike Evans https://www.macfilos.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/#comment-27590 Tue, 16 Jun 2020 06:39:06 +0000 http://worcesterwordpress.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/#comment-27590 In reply to Hans Goepel.

Personally I do not think the 18mm is necessarily better than the 18-56mm just because it’s a prime lens. Its big advantage is it’s small size but I wouldn’t worry about the slightly slower aperture of the zoom at 18mm. My advice would be to keep the zoom and save your money.

]]> By: Hans Goepel https://www.macfilos.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/#comment-27589 Tue, 16 Jun 2020 05:16:45 +0000 http://worcesterwordpress.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/#comment-27589 I have a Lieca CL, inherited from my late brother.
The opjcktiv on this camera is 18-56, a friend believes I should bay the 18/2.8 being a better lens? To my thinking what is the point I already have the 18-56 why buy an 18/2.8 ?? I am thankful if someone shines a little light in my darkness.
Thank you Hans

]]> By: Mike Evans https://www.macfilos.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/#comment-26712 Wed, 20 May 2020 19:10:05 +0000 http://worcesterwordpress.com/2018/02/26/2018-2-25-leica-cl-18-56-vario-elmar-is-this-the-new-x-vario/#comment-26712 In reply to SC.

If you are happy with a prime lens, then the 60mm macro is supposed to be very good. That said, it’s the one TL lens I haven’t tried. A prime 50 would probably have to be an M Mount and unless you already own the adapter, it becomes expensive. The 18-56 is a very good, sharp lens but, of course, it is relatively slow.

]]>